Friday, July 4, 2008

Expanding on my attitude toward PVP

To clarify my last entry, the reason that I get so, SO mad at people who AFK out or play to lose (or just refuse to communicate and work as a team, even), is because I take PVP seriously. It's why I play the game.

I wanted so badly to be able to report a player in Arathi Basin the other day because she refused to stay on defense, and she and two others kept leaving the blacksmith undefended to take the mine or vice versa. Everyone, I mean EVERYONE, else in the battleground was yelling for them to just freaking pick a node and DEFEND. We were against an Alliance team who had their acts together, and were barely holding three nodes to their two. Because of the actions of these three people, we lost 1830 to 2000.

I single this player out specifically because she (or he ... female toon, but who knows?) not only refused to listen, telling us all "It's just a game, SHUT UP," but incited two others to do the same. Had it not been for her, we would have had 14 defenders, at least.

If this had been a Karazhan raid and two or three players refused to listen to the tank/raid leader and went off to fight Curator on their own, you know what? They'd: a.) be freaking morons, and b.) get their asses booted from the raid and probably from their guild, if they weren't in a PUG. I would never go into an instance and just do my own thing with no regard for the rest of the group.

A lot of players take PVE very seriously, and are hardcore about it. And you know what? When I go into an instance with a group, I try my damnedest to be a benefit and not a detriment. That means I listen to my teammates, I don't go randomly AFK, I don't sit and kill snakes or rabbits while the team takes on the boss. It's about respect and allowing other people to enjoy the game. And you know what? I don't care much for instances ... SO I DON'T USUALLY DO THEM. I don't need the loot — I'm not going to be doing much PVE anyway — and I don't want to take up a spot from someone who actually does like instances and would give them their best shot. I run instances when I need to finish a quest or when one of my buddies needs DPS for one of their groups, and that's it, and when I do do them, I give it my all and try to be part of the team.

That's what PVP should be like. For a lot of people, PVP is our raiding. We're not interested in downing Gruul or whoever. We're interested in going into battlegrounds, playing seriously, putting together a strategy, and trying to win. The winning isn't the important part — although it is awesome — just as one-shotting a boss isn't as important to raiders as is working as a team, doing your best, and seeing what works and what doesn't. Some of us are on at weird times or have trouble getting into pre-mades (which is hopefully going to change for me soon), so we have to PUG, but that doesn't mean we aren't hardcore.

Yes, it's just a game and games are about having fun. For some of us, PVP is fun. And it becomes not fun when one asshole who doesn't know what teamwork is refuses to be a contributing member of the team. Bad players I can handle. I'm not the best PVPer myself — I love it, and I'm working on improving, but I'm not leet. But bad attitude players? Yeah, they need to GTFO.

When I see people in game who are like, "I hate PVP. Just lose so we can go" I want to reach through the screen and shake them. If you don't like PVP, GTFO.

If you don't like PVP or give it the effort you would with PVE progression, seriously, stop PVPing. If you are one of those people who come in and just take up space, or do your own thing, or sit and kill rats instead of actually defending, then why the hell are you there? For honor rewards? Why do you need honor rewards? They're obviously going to be wasted. All you are doing is ruining the fun of the game from someone else.

2 comments:

Cryptography said...

To some extent I think this is where Bliz screwed up with their battlegroup assignments. They have mixed up PvE realms with PvP in the same battlegroups.

Seriously, if you aren't into pvp, roll on pve, DON'T flag, and stay the hell out of the battlegrounds.

I don't like PvP anywhere near as much as MW does, but I'm damned sure going to give it my best shot.

My shining moment was when I 3-capped a WSG on my druid when most of the team were AFK. Mind you, the alliance weren't very effective either though!

(I'd love for you to post your various strategies on battlegrounds... in this area I'm a bit of a newb.

KC said...

Hehe, I just wrote up a post on AB strategy with some general hunter strategy thrown in, but I don't want to spam my own blog, so it's not going up quite yet.

The only other battleground I'm in as much is Alterac Valley, but if I don't have a specific job, I mostly just pick a decently-geared melee-type person (on the assumption they might know what they're doing and they will keep the enemy's attention while I shoot them), follow them until they stop, and then fight there, wherever there is, because that battleground is HUGE AND CONFUSING. I'm finally starting to understand it (yay strategy guides), and I love the battleground in general, but I am in no way qualified to give advice. I mostly just follow orders and when in doubt, go by "if it's red it's dead."

I could probably do something on low-level Warsong Gulch defense specifically (I hate WSG offense) — I have some notes from my paladin still (yes, I take notes), and from Ideale, and I have a shaman and almost a rogue at the right levels to go get killed by twinks, so that could be fun. Hmm.